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Ben Stein tells people off. . .again? September 8, 2006

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I’m not sure this is him, but what the heck, let’s take a look at it.

 

Think About This

If they know of him at all, many folks think Ben Stein is just a quirky actor/comedian who talks in a monotone.   He’s also a very intelligent attorney who knows how to put ideas and words together in such a way as to sway juries and make people think clearly.

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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary:


Herewith at this happy time of year, a few confessions from my beating heart: I have no freaking clue who Nick and Jessica are.  I see them on the cover of People and Us constantly when I am buying my dog biscuits and kitty litter.  I often ask the checkers at the grocery stores.  They never know who Nick and Jessica are either.  Who are they? Will it change my life if I know who they are and why they have broken up? Why are they so important?

I don’t know who Lindsay Lohan is either, and I do not care at all about Tom Cruise’s wife.  Am I going to be called before a Senate committee and asked if I am a subversive? Maybe, but I just have no clue who Nick and Jessica are.

If this is what it means to be no longer young.  It’s not so bad.

Next confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.  And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees.  I don’t feel threatened.  I don’t feel discriminated against.  That’s what they are: Christmas t rees.

It doesn’t bother me a bit when people say, “Merry Christmas” to me. I don’t think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto.  In fact, I kind of like it.  It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year.  It doesn’t bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu.   If people want a creche, it’s just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don’t like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don’t think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians.  I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.  I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country.  I can’t find it in the Constitution, and I don’t like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren’t allowed to worship God as we understand Him?  I guess that’s a sign that I’m getting old, too.

But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to. 

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it’s not funny, it’s intended to get you thinking.

 

Billy Graham’s daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her “How could God let something like this Happen?”  (regarding Katrina)

 

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.  She said, “I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we’ve been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.

How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?”

In light of recent events…terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.  I think it started when Madeleine Murray O’Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn’t want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.  The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself.   And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self -esteem (Dr. Spock’s son committed suicide).  We said an expert should know what he’s talking about.   And we said OK.

Now we’re asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.

 

I think it has a great deal to do with “WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.”

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to hell.

Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

 

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you’re not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.  If not then just discard it…..no one will know you did.   But, if you discard this thought process, don’t sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in


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1. Amanda - September 8, 2006

Snopes.com says that while Ben Stein did say a lot of this, it has been modified from the original.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/benstein2.asp

2. demolition65 - September 8, 2006

yeah, I thought that some of it didn’t ring right.

3. GH - September 19, 2006

yet you posted it anyway?

4. demolition65 - September 20, 2006

Why not? Message may still be valid.

5. C Thomas - September 23, 2006

Okay listen, let’s all praise Ben Stein for bringing attention to the morally bankrupt and often misguided American culture. Clearly most of us shouldn’t care about Nick and Jessica, nor any of the other over compensated pop culture stars and sports heroes created by that ‘have and have not’ mish mash you call a country.

While for reasons of it own making the US is clearly at the brink of the greatest collapse in history (Read Jared Diamond- Guns Germs and Steel -The Fates of Human Societies and Collapse- How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed for a start), pointing us to a need to jump on the GOD wagon is no solution. Suggesting that the path out of our global mess is a deeper relationship with a belief structure, which at minimum is seriously flawed and possibly the single biggest cause for human crisis on the planet, is simply the act of peddling false hope.

If there is a GOD or some superior race that feels any sort of responsibility for this malformed experiment we call our world, and she ever decides to return here for a look, there is going to be some serious butt kick’in dished out. There will be a major butt kicking for mass misinterpretation of the word of GOD, the theoretical bible, likely developed by a band of traveling hippies of their day and continuously misappropriated and abused as reference guide for centuries afterward. There will be a huge ass kicking for the ongoing abuse, torture, murder and general mayhem generated by believers of one sort or another and a serious talking to, over our ongoing abuse of nature and the space we were given to share.

If you honestly believe that some divine finger or wind might have diverted Katrina, avoided genocide in Rwanda, 9/11 or any other of our great misfortunes, you are sadly mistaken. When time provides the opportunity to look back with a more educated eye upon human failures, we will learn that we lacked both the knowledge and will to make the changes we needed to save ourselves. Fear and loathing will have certainly played a major role, but lack of knowledge will be viewed as the great undoing.

When the giant score card is posted on greatest human disasters, most heinous attacks on humanity and the most confused and misguided of the human form, the people who call themselves Americans will be at the top of most lists. The American way of life will not only be shown to be your undoing, but also the very reason why so many suffered so much. In particular, you GOD fearing Americans will be prominently positioned as main perpetrators of evil around the world, blindly strapping your weak value structures on those who never needed you.

What most us already understand is that Americans are for the most part an under educated, misguided and fearful people. Your seething fear has brought you and the nations you have touched massive death, disease, amassed armaments and environmental disasters one after another. Your schools are in shambles, no longer able to graduate literate or thoughtful leaders who might actually change your future. You build, sponsor and idolize idiots, throw them a basketball, football, a gun or a new brand logo and tell them their heroes. In some cases you even elect and reelect your idiots, so they can continue the good fight and prey of that fear mentality you are nurturing. You’ll even allow your country to be walled in both physically and spiritually by this illogical fear structure, rather than change your tone or policy. You’ll swear up and down that your belief system is right and that everyone else is wrong, murdering all challengers to the status quo. You’ll propagate your righteous view in your churches and schools in the same fanatical way that you kill others for doing and you label the outsiders as extremists.

America you’re a drunken and vicious, malcontent, idiot, staggering about the world in fear. Unable to reason or change you strike out for capitalist freedom while you fence in and muzzle your people and any people who disagree with your plan. You deserve all the pain that is heaped upon you and your failure while already obvious won’t be complete until you’ve taken us all with you.

6. demolition65 - September 23, 2006

The above makes me wonder if I’ve come across someone who has a canned response instead of his own blog.

That said:

If there is a GOD or some superior race that feels any sort of responsibility for this malformed experiment we call our world, and she ever decides to return here for a look, there is going to be some serious butt kick’in dished out.. . .which leads to the old trap of determinism; that a loving God MUST intervene. The doctrine of Free Will refutes this notin quite handily. See Kreeft and Tacelli for further details.

If you honestly believe that some divine finger or wind might have diverted Katrina, avoided genocide in Rwanda, 9/11 or any other of our great misfortunes, you are sadly mistaken. This sort of twaddle is reserved for fringe lunatics like Robertson and his ilk. Thoughtful Catholics reject this notion out of hand. It is quite possible to believe in God and still reject the idiocy listed above.

But, here is the core of the thesis:

America you’re a drunken and vicious, malcontent, idiot, staggering about the world in fear. Unable to reason or change you strike out for capitalist freedom while you fence in and muzzle your people and any people who disagree with your plan. You deserve all the pain that is heaped upon you and your failure while already obvious won’t be complete until you’ve taken us all with you.. Well, I won’t argue with this, save that it may say more about the messenger than the message itself.

Jealous Canadians, anyone?

7. Jeremiah T. - October 18, 2006

Agreed. What American with an opinion that wants to be heard would attempt to do so by means of degrading the nation? Not one that has an opinion worth hearing.

Though I agree with the message of this article and feel that it is a very moving article, I’m not sure it should be posted as is when the actual source of the statement, Ben Stein, states the actual message on his website:

http://www.benstein.com/121805xmas.html

The second half of this article is not the actual words of Ben Stein. Does that mean I feel the article is inaccurate? Only to the extent that not all of those words are Ben Stein’s. But otherwise I completely agree with the entire point of the article.

Again, I’m not downing the message, nor am I attempting to lessen the point behind it. But one cannot manipulate or change the context of the article of discussion in order to create a point that was not included in the original article, whilst attaching a name to it which does not belong. If one wants to leave all the words in the piece, I feel its fine to do so, as long as it is stated which are Stein’s words and which are not.

GOD Bless!

8. -chris - November 19, 2007

I have seen numerous postings of the “Ben Stein Christmas Confessions”, and actually just got a copy from my dad.

I don’t care if you think “Message may still be valid” or not. To attribute words to someone else just to give it validity, or to not check your sources, or to just leave it there because it MAY be true, is just wrong. And irresponsible.

How would you like it if someone else took a letter of yours, and doubled it’s length with someone else’s thoughts?

9. Nick H - December 17, 2007

Well I think its about time someone finally decided to say something about this issue. I to agree with Ben Stein’s views on America and were we are going to. Its dissapointing when you see magazines about how terrible it is that Nick and Jessica are getting divorced, other than seeing how the homeless are doing or if the children in America are getting full meals on their plate, its difficult because I quite frankly I dont give a damn if Nick and Jessica are getting divorced. I dont know either of them and I dont care why they needed to do this. I care about whether our country is winning the war or terrorism, not caring about Lindsay Lohan losing 20 pounds. WHO CARES? Thats her life not mine why should i be concerned.

His statement of Jews and Christians is one that should be taken into deep consideration in America.

Agreed Ben Stein

Thanks for the message.


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