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One last shot at the SS Marcotte/Edwards. . . February 9, 2007

Posted by Administrator in Blogging, Cultural Pessimism, Idiots, Liberal Hypocrisy, Pandamansanity, Politics.

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. . .before it sails off into whatever highly dubious destiny awaits it.

I had considered a point-by-point blow-up of Amanda’s absurdist, utterly disingenuous rendering of her “intent” behind her scurrilous and bigoted posts. But Time, the oldest offender, keeps getting in the way, placing annoyances like work and family in my path.

Then, thanks to Mark Shea, I was led to Revolution21’s assault on Amanda’s logic. It is right to the point:

“It has never been my intention to disparage people’s individual faith,” she added, “and I’m sorry if my words were taken in that way.”



My intention is never to offend anyone for his or her personal beliefs . . . .


Q: What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit?

A: You’d have to justify your misogyny with another ancient mythology.


I suspect Pope Ratz will give into the urge eventually to come out and say there’s no limbo and unbaptized babies go straight to hell. He can’t help it; he’s just a dictator like that. Hey, fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, the Pope’s gotta tell women who give birth to stillborns that their babies are cast into Satan’s maw. The alternative is to let Catholic women who get abortions feel that it’ll all work out in the end, which is just not doable, due to that Jesus-like compassion the Pope is so fond of. Still, it’s going to be bad PR for the church, so you can sort of see why the Pope is dragging ass.


One thing I vow here and now — you mother****ers who want to ban birth control will never sleep. I will f*** without making children day in and out and you will know it and you won’t be able to stop it. Toss and turn, you mean, jealous mother****ers. I’m not going to be “punished” with babies. Which makes all your efforts a failure. Some non-procreating women escaped. So give up now. You’ll never catch all of us. Give up now.

Wheee!!!! Then, Rev21 educates me on Melissa from Shakespeare’s Sister:


I’m not going to say a lot about this right now, but suffice it to say that the fact I cast a vote, without hesitation, for a Catholic during the last presidential election might suggest I’m not anti-Catholic. My degree from Loyola University might also suggest the same.


What don’t you lousy mother****ers understand about keeping your noses out of our britches, our beds, and our families?

The Holy Rollers are really on a tear lately. Aside from trying to make sure women don’t have access to life-saving medical procedures, not to mention birth control and emergency birth control, getting busy with the state initiatives to slowly chip away at abortion rights, revving up to bring the Marriage Protection Amendment to another vote, cutting funding for international family planning, increasing funding for domestic abstinence-only sex education programs, and about eight million other things we grouse about on a daily basis, now they’re embarking on a crusade to ban gay adoption in at least 16 states.


Seriously, these wankers need to f*** off. Have a look at the thousands of American kids who need good homes, but had the audacity to become orphans after they weren’t cute wee babies anymore, or the impudence to have physical or psychological disabilities, or the scandalous impertinence to be not white. Older children, children of color, and/or children with special needs are more likely to be adopted by gays and lesbians. Not straight married couples. Not even straight singles. No matter how devout or how pro-life or how pro-family. Gays and lesbians adopt these kids in higher numbers than anyone else.


Liberals see an American tradition of slowly but surely making good on that promise of equality for every citizen, but we tend to call it “progress” and ourselves “progressives.” Social conservatives, on the other hand, define American tradition as the good old days, when there was no question that men were superior to women, straights were superior to gays, and whites were superior to everyone else. They want to preserve and protect that “tradition,” and, though some of them call themselves culture warriors, mostly they call themselves “traditionalists.”

Not only is that shorter than “sexist, racist, homophobic retrof*** jackholes,” but it sounds a lot nicer, too.


Da New Pope (as Ezra would say) doesn’t like da faggots. As anyone who’s spent more than five seconds hanging around this joint knows, here at Shakespeare’s Sister, we likes da faggots, and so we don’t likes da new pope.

In 1986, Pope Ratz (as by which he will heretofore be referred) wrote a Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons, in which he recommended that “appropriate forms of pastoral care for homosexual persons” be developed with “the assistance of the psychological, sociological and medical sciences, in full accord with the teaching of the Church,” even though homosexuality had been removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) thirteen years earlier. By 1986, the psychological, sociological, and medical sciences didn’t regard homosexuality as a “disorder” in need of treatment, but clearly, Pope Ratz (and the rest of the church) did.


If it weren’t for the fact that this gay-hating bigot was just made head of the largest network of institutionalized homophobia in the universe, that would almost be laughable. A strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil, says the former member of the Hitler Youth. Whether he was compelled to join or joined voluntarily is a matter of debate, but regardless of the origins of Pope Ratz’s former Nazi associations, including serving in the German army, they surely gave him the opportunity to see intrinsic moral evil up close and personal. Those f***ers were marching the fags off to the gas chambers, not the other way around.

As many as a million gays and lesbians were killed in the concentration camps during the Holocaust, with particularly harsh treatments reserved for gay men, who were also widely recruited for bizarre scientific experimentation, in search of a cure for future Aryan homosexuals. Gay men also had the highest death rate (60%) of any other social group relegated to the camps by the Nazis. Lesbians and gays were viewed as a threat to the future of the Aryan race, because they did not procreate, and when the Nazis came into power, they facilitated a swift backlash against the progressiveness of Berlin which had fostered a vibrant and thriving gay community. The entire country was delivered a steady stream of anti-gay propaganda, and the Hitler Youth were indoctrinated with virulent homophobia, which may well explain Pope Ratz’s strange acceptance of violence against gays, even as he condemns it:


I reject this pope, I reject his church, and I reject its teachings. I reject the notion that people I love are evil for being gay, or that any expression of love between two consenting adults is somehow sinful. There’s nothing sinful about love, and there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the way I love Mr. Shakes, and the way Pam loves Kate, and Mr. Furious loves Mr. Curious; I reject all claims to the contrary. And if that consigns my eternal soul to the fires of hell, then off I go, tra la la. I never f***ing liked harps, anyway.

Well well. Guess I DO have something against Melissa after all. Rev 21 then sums up:

TO BE BRIEF AND BLUNT, I’ll put it this way: I have strongly suspected for some time now that President Bush and some of his cohorts have fascistic tendencies of some crypto-Mussolini stripe.

Of Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwan, I have no doubt. None. And they ain’t no mere Mussolinis, either.

This is what John Edwards has chosen to stand behind. This is what John Edwards not only chooses to tolerate but to put in key campaign roles — with full knowledge of who they are, what they stand for and (most troubling of all) who they hate.

John Edwards is as unfit — or more so — for the office he seeks as the man presently holding it.

Nothing else need be said.

LINK UPDATES: But it WILL be said. RightWingNuthouse. Protein Wisdom1 and 2, Captain’sQuarters.


From the comments on Politico:

Mel Gibson said (paraphrasing),”I’m sorry for my behavior.”

These two bloggers have said, “We’re sorry some people were offended.”


Meanwhile, I had to see what the KoSycophants over at StreetProphets were saying. Their MaximumLeader, Herr ProphetPastorDan, says the following:

Both Marcotte and McEwen have apologized for any offense their comments might have given. Some folks will inevitably be unhappy that Edwards didn’t come out swinging against the people attacking his bloggers, but I think he handled it pretty well. The key statement here is “we can’t let our great debate be hijacked.” We’re not even going to give these creeps the time of day, in other words. We’re just going to keep on doing what we need to do.

That was no apology, Herr PastorFuehrer. They turned it around so that the blame now lies on those of us offended by their offensive behavior.

Y’know. This is like getting on the beaten traveler in the Good Samaritan story and telling him he’s a wimp for being upset at being beaten and left to die on the side of the road. That IS the traditional read on that story, isn’t it?

All so you can keep following dat ol Kossack Party line without troubling your numb conscience. Well done, sir.

UPDATE III  SUBLIME take on this by Instapunk.  A must read.



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